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The First Movies

The Texas Centennial

Columbia Pictures

Sunshine Ranch

The Open Spaces Pilot

Cabin at Big Bear Lake, CA

Nose Surgery


THE FIRST MOVIES (for a complete list, see Filmography)

The Sons of the Pioneers began their own movie career with the Liberty picture, The Old Homestead in 1935 but the year before that, Bob's voice made its film debut in Mascot's In Old Santa Fe, starring Ken Maynard. Maynard was a handsome, reckless, popular western star and he liked to sing but the studio was unsure of how the public would accept his high, thin singing voice. So they recorded Bob singing That's Why I Like My Dog for Ken to mime in the first scene. This is the film that actually launched Gene Autry's career in the movies - and Bob was involved in it, too. In other words, Bob Nolan was right there in the thick of things at the beginning of the Singing Cowboy movie craze and his Tumbling Tumbleweeds was the name of the very first film of that genre. Bob appeared personally in at least 88 films.



(Anonymous Collector)


The Pioneers wrote the songs and appeared with Charles Starrett in Columbia's Gallant Defender. They had no real acting parts, just song sequences around campfires and work as extras. They were singing on Dr. Cowan's (dentist) radio program early in the mornings and then going over to the Columbia lot by 6:00am to get ready for the day's shooting which began about 7:00am. Gallant Defender cost roughly $150,000 and took about three weeks to complete. Finding titles for all these B-Westerns was a challenge and the way Columbia handled it was to get all the office staff together - stenographers, secretaries, etc - and show the new film to them. They would all submit a name and whoever won would get the $15 prize.


The Sons of the Pioneers made several shorts in 1935 (See Various Films) including "Slightly Static", appeared in the two B-Western feature films for Columbia, and Bob was seen and his songs were heard on screen by an audience that craved music.


A production still from the short, "Slightly Static" (1935 09 07)

Back: Karl and Hugh Farr, Tim Spencer, Leonard Slye and Bob Nolan.

Front: The Randall Sisters.


"My grandmother, Ruth, is in the middle in the photo. On the left is her older sister Shirley and on the right is her older sister Bonnie. I am contacting a man who owns many of the old radio shows called "Pinto Pete & the Ranch Hands." Apparently the Sisters (first called Aaron Sisters, their actual last name, then the Randall Sisters) sang is dozens of these shows." (Jennifer Putnam)



Sound in the movies was in its infancy and the people wanted music as well as action. These were heady days for the young men. They did not make much money and they had to work extremely hard but they became known across the nation. Douglas B. Green explains the reason for their quick rise to fame:  "Their songs were sweeping and majestic. They were about the west. They were about the wide-open spaces and the free life and fresh air; not so much about branding and taming wild horses. They took those old songs of the trail and the endless ballads in three chords and completely revitalized them with their musicianship and their songwriting and harmony. Nobody was singing three part harmony, yodeling in harmony, like that. It was unheard of when they started in the 30s."


Way Up Thar

(Karl E. Farr Collection)


If 1935 was busy, 1936 was hectic. The group continued their radio broadcasts on KFWB, made an appearance with Bing Crosby in Paramount's Rhythm on the Range, supported Dick Foran in two Warner Brothers films, performed for three weeks at the Texas Centennial in Dallas, appeared in two Gene Autry Republic films and another Charles Starrett picture for Columbia, and all that time they were constantly expanding their repertoire. Because they were on staff at KFWB, they might have two or three programs a day and they needed new songs constantly. They also appeared on KFOX in Long Beach, KRLD in Los Angeles and as The Gold Star Rangers on both KFWB and KMTR in Hollywood. They depended heavily on old-time songs but Bob and Tim were continually writing new ones, too. This is how Bob described it:


        We wasn’t going to do anything that anybody else did at all. We had to do a lot of "Gay 90’s" stuff like Annie Rooney because there was an insatiable demand at that time for harmony singing. And we were on radio at least an hour a day, every day of the year, and sometimes two hours. We had to have an awful lot of material, and that’s where we beat everybody else to the top spot because we had a repertoire at the time (after we had taken the job at KFWB) of at least three thousand songs, all committed to memory, both words and harmony. No other group in town could match us. I would take the lower register and Roy would take the lead, and Tim would take the top. Sometimes we were infringing on each other; like the tenor would be the high baritone and I would come up into the low tenor. We just felt the thing as we went along. It was a wonderful group to work with when it was young, when we were all working on it real hard.



In 1935, the Sons of the Pioneers made a guest appearance in Gallant Defender with Joan Perry (above) and Charles Starrett.





Courtesy of Laurence Zwisohn


At the invitation of Texas Governor James V Allred, the Pioneers made their first public appearance outside of California during a three-week engagement at the Texas Exposition.


(From left to right)

Carl [sic] Farr, Hugh Farr, Vern (Tim) Spencer, Gov. Allred of Texas, Len Slye, Bob Nolan and Capt. Verdon Moffett of the California Highway Police Patrol.

(Courtesy of Karl E Farr, from the cover of Tim Spencer's "Ride, Ranger, Ride")


Closer view of above.

(Private Collection)


 Amon G Carter (creator and publisher of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram) and unidentified man with the Sons of the Pioneers

(Private Collection)


Dale Evans remembers seeing the Sons of the Pioneers at the Texas Centennial celebrations: "I was walking through the Centennial there at Dallas and here was this huge exhibit by Gulf Oil and a bunch of boys standing behind a glass performing, just almost non-stop."


(Karl E. Farr Collection)


(Courtesy of John Fullerton)


Part of the film they were currently appearing in with Gene Autry, The Big Show, was filmed on site. At the same exposition, they had their first taste of rubbing shoulders with the federal government when they had their photograph taken with Vice President Garner. They also recorded two sides for Decca while they were in Dallas.


Newspaper clipping from the Hollywood Citizen-News, 1936


Left to right: Bob Nolan, Hugh Farr, Tim Spencer, “’CACTUS JACK’ AND COWBOY CROONERS – Vice-President Garner flatly refused to pose for ‘gag’ pictures at the Texas Centennial Exposition. Rangerettes, fishing in the world’s fair lagoon, and a dozen other stunts were spurned but – well, cowboys are different and so he put on his ten-gallon hat for the photographer.”

(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)

(Anonymous Collector)


Shortly after the Sons of the Pioneers returned from the Texas Centennial, Tim Spencer left the group and did not return until early in 1939. Wesley Tuttle and Charlie Quirk took his place for a few weeks and then  nineteen-year-old Lloyd Perryman with his beautiful lyrical voice was hired in his place. They were still singing on radio both as The Sons of the Pioneers and Farley's Gold Star Rangers.


The sound of the trio had been built around Nolan’s distinctive bubbling baritone. They experimented by having each man move from position to position in front of the mike. After Perryman joined, the trio harmony became more exacting and Nolan noticed that when he was in the middle he found Spencer and Perryman listening to his voice and he could more easily hear theirs. Bob remembered the smiles as they acknowledged their approval of the new arrangement. Nolan’s voice overlapped and locked in all three voices.


With the addition of Lloyd Perryman came a subtle change in style as he gradually took over the arranging. By the late '30s, the inimitable Sons of the Pioneers sound was in place.  Few have been able to duplicate it.


(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)




In 1936 with Chief White Eagle and Princess Starlight with their baby, Ne Ha Nee, for whom Bob wrote one of his songs. 

(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)


With Bing Crosby and Leo Spencer in Rhythm on the Range publicity still, 1936.

(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)

Bob told Bill Bowen that a lecture from Ernest Hemingway in 1937 was one of the greatest things that had ever happened to him. Hemingway had just returned from the war in Spain and was much sought after. Robert Ruark, a writer friend of Bob's, persuaded him to attend a six-hour seminar given by Hemingway at UCLA. Ruark was a protégé of Hemingway’s and knew that Bob, a lyricist, would learn much from him. The lecture was to be limited to forty writers under thirty years of age and cost $500. Bob said this amount was a fortune to him in 1937, but he took some savings out of the bank and borrowed the rest.


I would have stolen to get that $500 to spend that time with Ernest Hemingway. We went in at 3:30 in the afternoon and left after 9:00. We had two meals with him…and he was one of the most gracious persons I ever met. He treated us like his children and the things he taught us that afternoon I will remember for the rest of my life. He taught us what it was to write and make our writing readable…re-editing until you got the words to mean exactly what you wanted them to mean. I’ve always had that in the back of my mind. I would write a song and go home and live with it and re-edit it and re-edit it until the words became a—what did he call it? --a sword, not a word—a cutting sword. That’s the key to the whole thing—the proper word. Re-edit and re-edit until the proper words are in their proper place. Understand you didn’t have to go to the dictionary. One thing I never did was make my listener go to the dictionary to find out what I was writing about. I spoke his language. (Note: Bob told Laurence Zwisohn it was $50.)


The Open Spaces

1937 saw the Pioneers moving to KHJ where they had a spot on Peter Potter's Hollywood Barn Dance with the Four Squires and the Stafford Sisters, etc. The voices of the Sons of the Pioneers and the Stafford Sisters blended beautifully and Bob conceived the idea of joining the two groups and calling themselves The Sons and Daughters of the Pioneers. He put together a pilot radio show, The Open Spaces, with Harry Hall as MC and it was aired at least once. For some reason, the show was dropped. Jo Stafford remembers the fun they had together building the program and even now she cannot understand why it did not catch on. The Pioneers and the Stafford Sisters were friends off-stage, as well, and Bob and Christine saw a lot of each other. In fact, one night on a beach in Oregon with Christine Stafford Bob composed his famous song, Wind.


Christine and Pauline Stafford


Wally Smith clearly recalls listening to the Sons of the Pioneers when they were first on Hollywood Barn Dance. He noticed that Bob avoided saying too much about his younger days because he had trouble choking back tears when he did, something he did not want to do on air.

Wesley Tuttle agreed that Bob was very sentimental. He also remembered going to Bob Nolan's apartment to record a song, Juanita, for Wesley's mother. Bob had a new home recorder and the records were heavy paper with a chemical coating that deteriorated each time it was played. Bob was intrigued and delighted with his machine and used it a lot. Of course, the "records" he made are long since gone. Bob, Wesley said, couldn't read a note in the early days and didn't know the names of the chords he played. He also used a capo if he wanted to change out of the key of C.

I chose western music as a career from listening to the North Texas stations in the mid-30s and it wasn't long before I began to hear the great transcriptions of the Sons of the Pioneers. We were so impressed with the Pioneer harmony that our first trio of Jimmy Wakely, Scotty Harrel and myself patterned ourselves after them. I sang "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" when I auditioned for my first radio job. (Johnny Bond)


COLUMBIA PICTURES (for a complete list, see Filmography)

At the Roy Rogers and Dale Evans Museum in Apple Valley, Laurence Zwisohn copied the particulars from the contract between Columbia and the Sons of the Pioneers contract dated August 1, 1937. "[They were] paid $8,000.00 for eight films. Two weeks later they began working on Old Wyoming Trail. The next film didn't begin until October 22 by which time Len had been signed by Republic."


When Roy left for Republic on October 13, 1937, he had to resign from the Sons of the Pioneers who had been newly signed by Columbia Pictures. The contract specified a certain number of members of the group but not which ones, so Len  suggested his friend, Bob O'Brady, as his replacement. Because there was already one "Bob" in the group, O'Brady changed his name to "Pat Brady". Pat took Roy's place as "toby" or comic, a part to which he was perfectly suited but his voice did not fit into the trio and Tim Spencer was invited back. Here's how Bob put it.


We knew Pat could sing, but he couldn’t harmonize, see. His voice would not---we could not harmonize with him at all. He’d been singing comedy so darn long, see, that he had no way of knowing what we were talking about when we said, "Blend."


It was in 1937 that the Sons of the Pioneers were showcased in the early Charles Starrett movies, beginning with The Old Wyoming Trail.  They had supporting parts as a group of cowhands, etc, and provided at least two and often four songs for each film. Bob's parts improved as the studio recognized his potential. When second lead Donald Grayson left the series due to a botched nose job, Bob was moved up into his place.


Donald Grayson


The studio insisted that Bob, too, have his handsome aquiline nose trimmed to "star quality" and in August of 1938 he reluctantly underwent the required cosmetic surgery. "I didn't see anything wrong with my perfectly good Roman nose!" But no one argued with the boss, Columbia's Harry Cohn. He was the king, the star-maker, and a lowly actor did as he was told or he was out. The new nose was nowhere near as handsome as the original but the boss was satisfied and the studio continued to groom Nolan for better parts. (More detail.)


Before and after the cosmetic nose surgery

(Digital comparison by Larry Hopper)


The studio had Bob dress like George O'Brien, one the most popular western action stars of the '30s. Older than Nolan by nine years, O'Brien was a natural athlete, a heavyweight boxer and a man with a powerful physique who worked for Fox Studios and then RKO. O'Brien objected to having singers in his films although some members of the Sons of the Pioneers did appear in them.


  Bob Nolan and George O'Brien



Bob sought to improve his acting skills without benefit of formal theatrical lessons, depending instead on the director and the other actors for tips. His roles as Charles Starrett's right hand man were better than any role he had in the later Roy Rogers / Republic films. Also, when Tim left the group in 1937, the entire songwriting load for each film fell on Bob's shoulders. He composed new songs and selected some of  his old poetry to put to music.  "There wasn't a day," he said, "that I wasn't working on at least two songs at one time." Ray Whitley took over the management of the group. Gerald Vaughn, Ray Whitley's biographer described Ray's involvement in the Pioneers' career -


Ray met the Pioneers at the Texas Centennial in Dallas in 1936. Ray and his musical group, the Six Bar Cowboys, were featured there for several months extending into the summer and the Pioneers came in from Los Angeles for a special three-week engagement in July-August.


Friendships naturally grew between Ray and the members of the Pioneers, becoming closer when Ray went to Hollywood that summer to appear in his first western movie feature, Hopalong Cassidy Returns, starring William Boyd. Staying in Hollywood, Ray's career and the activity of the Pioneers were sort of parallel at that time. They all were well-known recording artists, all trying to get a break into Western movies, and all doing a lot of radio and personal appearances around Los Angeles. When Ray was a regular on the popular Hollywood Barn Dance radio show, he suggested to its producers that they acquire the services of the Pioneers at the first opportune time. The boys became available and Hollywood Barn Dance grabbed 'em.


        In this way the careers of Ray and the Pioneers were touching each other. Also as friends they all were increasingly buddying together. Ray always enjoyed scuffling around and laughs about their pastime of wrestling on the beaches. Ray later managed light heavyweight wrestling champion Red Barry and at a private party in Texas, Ray once wrestled non other than boxing immortal Jack Dempsey. But Ray recalls he never could get a hold on the athletic Bob Nolan.

        Ray had been managing the business affairs of his own Six Bar Cowboys for some years and when Tim Spencer left the Pioneers for a year in 1936-1937, the boys asked Ray to manage them. Ray's managerial arrangement began around February or March 1937 and continued until he went under contract to RKO movie studio seven or eight months later, about October. As the Pioneers' manager, Ray would book them for engagements. A theater in Covina and a party in Bakersfield specifically come to his mind. He recalls that by 1937 the Pioneers had their arrangements and blend of harmony so perfect that they needed to rehearse very seldom between jobs. Though present at their rehearsals, he offered no suggestions on what they were doing because it was so perfect.

        The Pioneers had been recording for Decca since 1934. In addition, Ray approached Uncle Art Satherly suggesting the mutual benefits if the Pioneers recorded for Uncle Art's American Record Company as well. As a result, in October and December 1937, the boys cut a number of great sides for ARC.

        In 1935 and 1936 the Pioneers had appeared in a couple of western movies starring Charles Starrett at Columbia studio. In 1937 they asked Ray to attempt to negotiate a contract with Harry Cohn, Columbia's chief executive, whereby the Pioneers would become the regular musical group in Starrett's westerns. Cohn was one of the hardest-nosed businessmen in Hollywood. Ray made it clear that if Cohn wanted the best, he wanted the Sons of the Pioneers. The negotiating got pretty hot with Ray trying to get the boys what he knew they were worth. Reaching an impasse, Ray finally agreed to take Cohn's contract offer back tot he Pioneers but he told Cohn he wouldn't sign it himself and wouldn't recommend it to the Pioneers. The Pioneers made their decision democratically, took a vote and, despite Ray's reservations, decided to accept the contract.

        Although Ray actually felt ashamed of the contract as he felt it was grossly underpaying the Pioneers, he agrees that their acceptance of it was best after all. The movies usually took only one week to film; instead, he got the Pioneers a two-week guarantee on each movie. Each member received about one-half as much as he deserved. The studio demanded first call so Ray got the fellas a bonus to pay for purchasing electrical transcriptions to replace themselves on radio while busy making pictures. In addition, Bob Nolan and Tim Spencer as songwriters were able to supplement their incomes still further by selling songs to the studio for use in the movies. This was on top of earnings from radio, recordings, and personal appearances where the Pioneers continued to be active as before.

        The long-term benefits for the Pioneers came through the greater exposure they obtained via the Starrett movies. Starrett moved steadily upward among the top ten western stars, from 9th in 1937 to 4th in 1941 when the Pioneers' last movies with him were released and the boys teamed up again with Roy Rogers. Ray appeared in one film with the Pioneers, The Old Wyoming Trail, before he was contracted to RKO.


                The Pioneers sang Tumbling Tumbleweeds over the opening and closing credits of each film (except North of the Yukon) and each member was paid a small weekly salary. Bob received very little money for the use of his songs and Tim reportedly sued the studio for nonpayment before their contract was up. Ten or fifteen dollars per song was all he and Tim received at best.



Tim and Bob were assigned songs to write for the movies and it was pretty much done in a 'let's get down to it' mode. But the other songs that they created - I can remember them stopping in the middle of dinners, parties or doing things together, and they would get an idea and go off and finish a song or start a song. They'd do that together a lot and they would do it separately, too. (Hal Spencer)



(Anonymous Collector)


Although Bob's voice was perfectly acceptable to Warner Brothers when it was dubbed in for a villain singing Vengeance in a Dick Foran flick, Song of the Saddle, and it was acceptable to Mascot when it was dubbed in for Ken Maynard, someone on the Columbia staff didn't care for his unique vibrato so they, in turn, dubbed in a trained baritone for Bob's solo parts. If you go to the Lyrics page, you can hear one of these dubbed baritones in Bob's song, Bronco Pal, from the movie Rio Grande. If the Columbia powers-that-be didn't like his voice, the public did and they demanded it back. They were quite familiar with his voice from his years on radio and loved it. After a few films, Columbia bowed to their requests and Bob sang his own songs from then on. But, while Bob was miming to the pre-recorded voice of the unidentified baritone, the Sons of the Pioneers had difficulty restraining their laughter on screen. Bob himself could not resist hamming it up just a little.


It was during these years that Bob found he had to distance himself from the rest of the cast and crew to focus on his songwriting. As any writer knows, a lot of socializing is not conducive to creativity. Always a loner by inclination, Bob would now move out of earshot, in sight and available but away from the activity of the set or location.  "You could tell from a lot of his songs that there was a guy who did a lot of tall thinking," considered Roy Rogers. Karl Farr Jr. recalls, "Bob was always off doing his own thing like one time on location in Kernville, California on a picture he took a tube and floated down the Kern River. He kept to himself a lot." Although the Pioneers understood,  others did not and he became known as a bit of a recluse.


Karl E. Farr Collection


From Colorado Trail, 1938, singing  "Bound for the Rio Grande"

(Karl E. Farr Collection)


In those early years as second lead to Charles Starrett, Bob obviously did his best to improve his acting skills and he was comfortable in his role. He knew his lines and threw himself into his parts with an energy that matched Starrett's. Practice perfected a quick draw that would impress any movie gunfighter and no one was checking to see if he could hit a target. In the fight scene in Texas Stagecoach, he gave a believable performance and needed no stunt man to improve on it. One viewer, after watching the scene, observed, "If it had been a real fight, Bob would have won!"


In 1939, while Columbia's Harry Cohn was producing the film, Golden Boy, with William Holden, he was also planning a series built on the story. One day, he watched Bob Nolan crossing the studio yard and thought he had found his man.  Here's how Bob tells the story –


When Harry Cohn (when we were working at Columbia) was going out to lunch and we was just coming back, he stopped his whole entourage and pointed a finger at me and said, "There’s my "Golden Boy!" It scared me, so I went out and got drunk and stayed drunk for a week until he gave up on me! I never wanted that responsibility. 


             Left: Harry Cohn                                  Right: Bob in his Columbia costume.


While Bob had convinced himself that staying drunk for a week proved to Cohn how unreliable he would be for a series of his own, in actual fact he was a very reliable actor. He was the only one of the Sons of the Pioneers who appeared in every film. He enjoyed working in those early movies although he lacked the ambition to be a star. He was content to be a supporting actor because it gave him time to write his music and it freed him from the social obligations that burden a star. Still, the public loved him and he found himself titular leader of the Sons of the Pioneers. He always denied that he was the leader, that there was no leader, but Bob could not deny that he was forced into fronting the group. He had a pleasant speaking voice, a contagious smile and, of a group of handsome men, he was by far the best-looking.


Charles Starrett had nothing but good to say about Bob. He told Mario de Marco, "I enjoyed working with Bob as much as any person I had ever worked with, whether it was theater, radio, television, or anything. Bob was a wonderful person. A strong person and a good musician and a very poetic sort of a person. He saw into people, too. He was a loner."


Always the beach for relaxation. Here with Flash Whiting and friends.

(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)


Bob at the right.

(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)


"Just after the turn of the century a magazine was published titled "Physical Culture". It was the rage with young men in the early part of the 20th Century and most were into body building and working out on the beach." Gary Lynch, author of "Tom Blake Surfing 1922-1932" and historian for SURFER magazine in the late 80‘s.

The Sons of the Pioneers during the late 1930s were also guests on the popular Community Sing ten-minute short films, singing mostly public domain music. These shorts were directed by Sam Nelson and often included Donald Grayson singing off-screen. They were seen on screen only briefly as most of the film was karaoke-style lyric sheets for the audience to sing along with.


(Jan Scott Collection)



During the shooting of one of the Starrett movies on location at Big Bear Lake, Bob found and leased a little cabin that was to be his summer retreat for the rest of his life.  A lonely spot I know where no man will go where the shadows have all the room.


        Well, it’s just a little shack that was built by a seventeen-year-old kid in 1925. This doggone little cabin, it has no frame at all, just boards straight up and down. But that wood is so hard and you’d swear and be damned---there’s so much weight on that roof---you’d just swear it would just buckle---the porch would go out from under it. But it don’t. It just stands there. And you can’t drive a nail in it. I have to take my electric drill and bore a hole in it just to drive a nail in it.

        I talked to the man that built it and he built it in 1925 when he was seventeen. In 1925, how old was I? I was born in 1908. I thought we were just about the same age. I never asked him how old he was, but I figured he was about the same age as me. You see, his mother was the agent for the government that handed out the leases for the government up there and she had this one lot that she couldn’t get rid of. It was a son-of-a-gun to get to, see, so she gave it to her son if he’d build a cabin on it. She knew that if he could build a cabin on it, then she could sell it!

        So he built this little cabin and it’s just right for me. It’s eighteen foot long, just about the length of this room and about twelve wide. Twelve by eighteen. And he set that doggone thing so that there’s four areas in it. It’s the perfectest laid out little place that you ever seen. There’s the kitchen area here and the sitting area here, the dining area here and the sleeping area. And there’s no walls between them, just an area. And I kept it just in the way he laid it out. Of course, I’ve done paneling and work and everything on it.

        Now, from the outside it looks so rustic. You go to the inside and here I’ve got this beech wood paneling! I’ve got cubbyholes cut in the wall and cupolas on the outside where my electric ovens are. My ovens fit on the outside because I couldn’t find no room for it on the inside. I spend four months of every year there and I tried to stretch it into five months but I got caught in the snow a couple of times and got snowed in so I didn’t try it any more.



(The Calin Coburn Collections ©2004)


Every Spring, as soon as the snow left the mountains and roads were passable, Bob would load up his Jeep or pickup and drive to Big Bear Lake. He lived simply for the next four months, cooked his own meals, and caught just one fish a day because one fish was all he could eat. He continued his swimming in the cold lake. This is where he wrote many of his songs and where he regained the serenity he lost in the crowds he entertained. For the first few years, his wife P-Nuts accompanied him and worked in a little restaurant close by. But P-Nuts was a social person and eventually stayed behind in their home at Studio City.    



He was so very quiet and he didn't talk much at all but, after you knew him, you really liked Bob. He was very honest. But he was just so bashful all the time. We were like brothers. (Roy Rogers)


Sunshine Ranch

In 1939, the Pioneers began a new syndicated radio show, Sunshine Ranch, originally aired over KNX and the Mutual Broadcasting System and recorded by Allied Phonograph and Record Manufacturing Co. in Hollywood. "And now we turn for awhile from the busy highway of life, and down the winding lane that leads to Sunshine Ranch for a visit with our old friends, Bob Nolan, Tim Spencer, Pat Brady, Lloyd Perryman and the Farr Brothers - Hugh and Karl. Here they are all set to bring us once again  the songs and sentiments of the open range, songs in the distinctive style of the Sons of the Pioneers!" Karl took the part of an educated man in love with large words. Each man was Foreman for a Day and there was a lot of good-natured banter and music.